gay facesitting - a theory?

[Unregistered]

I thought I'd see if I can provoke some discussion here.. its a theory I have - but I could be wrong...

I've often noticed that many member of this board react extremely strongly if there is any mention of gay (Male-Male) facesitting - in fact I recall several guys mentioning this topic have been chased of this board.

I must admit emotionally I used feel the same, but logically I never understood why. For example I enjoy seeing two lesbian girls facesit each other, and once, when I discovered one of my regular facesitters was a lesbian/bi, I found this actually increased my enjoyment of the experience. On the other hand I find the concept of heterosexual males sitting on female faces very repellant, so I suspect its nothing to with same sex thing.

I've tried to get to the bottom of this and I think in my case it stems from the fact that I have an exagerated dislike of the male body - including my own. Because of this I enjoy seeing an unattractive male body humiliated by an attractive female one., and to me a girl sitting on a male face seems the ultimate expression of this humiliation. It just looks so right to me, my mind get exhiliarated when I see it, or experience it myself. Clearly others get similar thrills seeing males being trampled by girls etc, but the facesit to me is something special.

So my theory is that guys who strongly dislike male bodies, also have a tendance to enjoy facesitting,trampling etc and at the same time will probably have an exagerated dislike of gay men. Any thoughts on this?

[fartslavemat]

um i dotn think so cuse ive had a facesitting/facefarting fetish since i was about 11 and ive never had a problem with gay people ...my best friend is gay and the first wedding i ver went to whe i was 6 was lesbian wedding..i think its jsut a natural hatred towards gays is where ppl get it from.and not for anythign but alot of people that act out storngly against gay people are closet homos themselves. its hard for people to accept this in them so they lash out at it ...i mean its kind of understandable ONLY because they have a fear of getting ,im going back to high school for a moment, made fun..so sorry to make this long winded post and seing that i rarely post i hope i dotn make any enimes....its jsut i feel stongly about some topics and this happened to be onbe of them

[Mr sniffles]

well its obvious that it is misunderstood, i do not understand gay men but to each is your own. i myself am a heterosexual, lesbian women are fine with me and a very big turn on, gay men are nasty in my eyes and probably the biggest turn off in the world just thinking about man on man facesitting makes me want to vomit. however, i do not mistreat gay men becasue of their sexuality i just cannot relate to them on a sexuality level.

[Rodzo]

In my crowd, we always liked gays
because they were generally a good
laugh and it meant more girls for us

and tended to disike lesbians because
they were almost always militant and
humourless and represented a terrible
waste of resources

[McBain]

I have nothing against gays.
Concenting adults should be able to practice whatever form of sex they like.
But, with regards to gays, I don't want to see it!!!
and thought of seeing a male arse facesitting is totally repulsive to me.

It might put me off this beautiful fetish for life!!:(

[FinalFox]

to reinforce the question: why do 'men' find male facesitting horrible? first, being a guy, I wouldn't like seeing other guys' bodies in general. The female body is far more attractive and seeing it do things like dominate is of course a turn on. Heterosexual males would hate to witness men performing acts with each other so naturally, they would hate to see a guy sitting on someone's face.
I think maybe a guy's natural dislike of seeing naked guys is a woman's natural liking of the same thing. I feel certain attributes between men and women are vice-versa (uniform, the same except opposite) and this is one of them.

What about another question (though I don't know whether or not I want to know this lol): do gay men mind seeing male facesitting?

[mistressnicola]

Originally posted by FinalFox
I think maybe a guy's natural dislike of seeing naked guys is a woman's natural liking of the same thing. I feel certain attributes between men and women are vice-versa (uniform, the same except opposite) and this is one of them.

So do you think hetero women would therefore enjoy seeing a guy facesit a girl or perhaps having a guy facesit them?

Speaking personally, seeing a guy facesit a girl wouldn't do a lot for me... And don't even talk to me about actually being facesat by a guy - I've experienced it and it's definitely not my thing! Funny coz I quite like being facesat by girls! Can anyone explain this to me because I don't even understand it myself... Perhaps it's a dominance thing rather than me being a secret lesbian? Hehe.

[Shamoo]

Definately a closet Lesbian Nikki :D To be honest tho...who wouldnt wanna be facesat by some of the lovelys you know?

[DownUnder007]

Originally posted by mistressnicola
So do you think hetero women would therefore enjoy seeing a guy facesit a girl or perhaps having a guy facesit them?

Somehow, I doubt seeing a man facesit a girl would do a lot for many women - I guess women's sexuality works in a very different way to men...more to do with the emotional, psychological, and sensual, elements than simple visual, as for men...

On the other hand, its possible sexually Dominant men may find seeing images of a naked man facesitting a woman quite erotic.....BUT, most men into being facesat are probably more sexually submissive in inclination - and therefore probably would not find a woman in a submissive position all that exciting...

Originally posted by mistressnicola
Funny coz I quite like being facesat by girls! Can anyone explain this to me because I don't even understand it myself... Perhaps it's a dominance thing rather than me being a secret lesbian? Hehe.

Well...maybe you are bi-sexual, Nikki...but...

...I've known several women in my life that are clearly predominantly hetero, but who LOVE the sensuality of the female body.....These women were sexually Dominant, highly sexual, and were real sensualists....they tended to enjoy a threesome, too - male + two females - and found the whole tangled bodies thing super-erotic.......And, that included being facesat by a woman....

...They could relate to the Dominance psychology going on of a woman sitting on their own face.....after all, they were sexually Dominant, themselves...and it was attractive to them, as sexual sensualists.

So...the appeal of a woman on their face, was part sheer sensuality - and part a tweaking of the Dominant instincts they themselves admire.....rather than a predominant lesbian, or bi-sexuality, as such.

That's how I understood it, Nikki...

[Logan]

Of course I cannot speak for everyone but for myself and most likely the majority of everyone else here at the board find the female body quite errotic in its many forms and female on male or female on female is very accepted here. But the fact of the matter is we gathered here for this very reason and share in it's commininity amongst ourselves and have a hard time relating to anything outside our own desires. Therefore the gag reflex we all have about speaking of "the other" I won't even type it tends to send us into anger and revulsion.

In our limited minds here at MDFF the female is not only art at its best, it is sexual and pleasing to our eyes.

Although the male form can be artistic if he is athletic we do not find him sexual here at the forums at least I think I can speak for the majority.

Logan

[Assaholic]

Yeah, I just don't see it. I don't have anything against the male body, I just am not gay. When I see a picture of a female sitting on a guy, I picture myself as the guy. The last thing I want is a guy's ass on my face. I mean, if someone is into, then I'm not going to protest, but I don't want to view it myself.

[rocar]

.<P> Funny coz I quite like being facesat by girls! Can anyone explain this to me because I don't even understand it myself... <p>Interesting because most heterosexual males find anything gay to be quite ,perhaps to put it mildly, unappealing,myself included.<p>It does seem though that heterosexual women do not as a rule have the same negative reaction to lesbianism.Even if they don`t participate they are not as put off by it,almost as if it a much more natural inclination for women.

[Cheek2Cheek]

No offense, but the answer to this question is so simple as to make it almost silly to ask. Why don't hetero men like seeing gay facesitting? Because they are HETERO. If you are a straight male, seeing two men engaged in ANY erotic act would be a turn-off. The fact that it is face-sitting is irrelevant. I love blowjobs, but seeing a man give one to another man would not be turn-on. Why? Because it's 2 men and I am hetero. Face-sitting is not a sexual orientation like being gay or straight. It is an erotic act, and if your sexual orientation is towards one gender or another then you don't want to watch the other gender in any sexual act together. Why doesn't this apply top lesbian scenes? Again, simple. Because they are 2 WOMEN engaged in an erotic act, and straight men are turned on by women. Where is the confusion here? It's not whether the participants are gay or straight that makes it a turn-on for most heteros. It's whether they are male or female. The question of finding the male body erotic or not has to do with your orientation. If you are a hetero male, by DEFINITION that means you are not turned on by the male body. If you are, that would mean you are either bi or gay, but not straight. Gay men and straight women obviously find the male body erotic, or their sexuality would not be oriented towards men.
Again, this is a really self-explanatory question. If you are a hetero male, then why would you be turned on by watching two men engaged in ANY sexual act, facesitting or otherwise? Now if you want to ask why more women are bi or bi-curious than men, that would be a far more interesting and complex debate.

[BlackSwirl]

I think the original question was more complex than simply "why don't hetero men like seeing gay facesitting?"

The question is:

A. Why would men from the board react so strongly negative and harsh towards other men who asked about gay facesitting?
B. Do men who "strongly dislike male bodies" enjoy females with perceived beautiful bodies sitting on males (with perceived ugly bodies), and have an "exaggerated dislike" of gay facesitting...and gay men in general.

And I think they are thought-provoking questions. I have seen guys who asked about male/male facesitting getting ridiculed or otherwise not being taken kindly to. The mere mention evoked some pretty strong negative reactions from some forum members. A more tolerant, polite response would be to simply say, "This forum is targeted towards femdom facesitting. There are other forums on the internet that would be better suited to what you're looking for. Good luck."
So why the strong reaction? Just a few vocal gay-haters? Did they somehow feel overly threatened that gayness could be associated with their fetish? I do agree that any hetero guy would be turned off by any male homosexual activities...but other things are discussed on this board that are turnoffs to some yet don't seem to get as strong of reactions. I wonder if it has anything to do with being submissive towards women, as many of us are. I'd like to think the greater BDSM community is more accepting of all fetishes and sexual identities, even if an individual isn't personally into certain ones, as we know the world around us is largely unaccepting...and we don't want to be hypocrites, right?

As for Point B, I can't speak much on that because I don't have an exaggerated dislike for my body or other male bodies. They definitely aren't a turn-on...but liking or disliking just doesn't come into play. I doubt that it does for the majority of guys. Perhaps that is a sub-fetish to facesitting. The humiliation factor, as in whether you consider facesitting to be humiliating, also is of significance here.

[zed1014]

So many interesting views on this; I wonder if I can add my tuppence worth...

I like to be dominated by a female. Thinking about if a male does to me exactly what I want a female to do to me I'm in a quandary - physically I like it; mentally I don't.

I think I'd have to look at a few pictures and vids, and work at imagining myself as the sub, before deciding if I liked it or not.

One of my good friends loves to see man on man action, and she is totally hetero, and she's a bit dominant as well so where she likes that is I guess where the hetero blokes like to see girl on girl.

If I'm honest I think I'd say that anyone who would pin me down, smother me sexually and force me to an orgasm, and orgasm themselves during the encounter, would probably have gone some considerable way to satisfy my ongoing fantasy. And if they were male I'd worry about my sexuality afterwards rather than during the incident I think...

Good Lord, have I caught the gay?

All the best everyone!